Special Intelligence Group targetting political dissidents.
In excusing the seemedly draconian actions of their most secret intelligence departments, the Police Commissioner Howard Broad and National crime manager Detective Superintendent Win Van Der Velde today inadvertently confirmed that the police unit called the Special Intelligence Group is acting outside its specific portfolio which is to target terrorism and threats to national security, not alleged 'criminal activity'.
Police Minister Judith Collins stated that,
"The Commissioner has confirmed to me that the police are meeting their responsibilities according to the law and that the Special Intelligence Group is not actually targeting groups but individuals who may be involved in criminal activities."
This was also confirmed by statements from the National crime manager Detective Superintendent Win Van Der Velde stating,
"where there is criminality that places an individual or their property at risk, then police will do some sort of assessment to mitigate it."
Reaffirming that the SIG whose role is to target terrorist enterprises, networks and funding of terrorism overseas and threats to national security, is instead focussing its intelligence gathering on local protest groups in some cases attempting to use entrapment to manufacture the notion of threats to national security.
The Auckland Metro Crime and Operations Support unit based in Otahuhu has its own criminal investigation units, drug units, organised crime squads, yet this role of tracking protestors scouring for so called, "criminal activity" as noted by Broad and Van Der Velde, has fallen under the auspices of the police unit whose sole task is investigating terrorism and threats to national security.
R. Rabbit



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This is not very surprising really since Sun Tzi wrote a whole chapter about spying in his Art of War book which you can apply to business, politics and… Check out section four and the rest after it in the direct link following.
www.4hb.com/0850sun-tzu-art-war-13.html
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Tzu
This is all very Machiavellian actually.
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavellian
www.hua.umf.maine.edu/Reading_Revolutions/Machiavelli.html
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I hope Gilchrest isn’t a doomed spy because this begs the question who are the surviving spy/ies?
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Maybe you should watch a movie called THE DEPARTED and then you might see how things operate here in New Zealand.Maybe certain people who are at the top of there drug trade here in NZ base copy this movie and how things get done who gets arrested who stays out who gets rich and who dies. Well thats enough to get started on.
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Plenty of these units have been shut down around the globe for over stepping their boundaries.
It was inevitable that post 12/9/2001 intelligence groups would run out of legitimate terror threats and turn on political dissidents.
First step is to get some informants. Informant information is unreliable and the cops know this, but its not the reliability they seek, its grounds for operations, with that comes funding, and with lots of funding come sustainability of their jobs, welfare, longevity of their outdated units etc.
So first off is unreliable informant info, that gives grounds for an operation, which is given a police budget. Couple that with convert photography, surveillance the police will eventually through various dishonest means, manufacture the grounds for interception warrants.
The easiest way to get interception warrants is under the drug laws, and we all know how the lefties like their weed.
Under the drug laws the SIG can obtain interception warrants to lay bugs, use microwave technology to listen in from distances away, place covert cameras, place police undercover operatives, use FLIR to capture thermal imaging at nightime, place tracking devices on vehicles, also all forms of electronic interception from requesting ISPs keep a log of all your internet traffic to placing 'interception devices' on your computer (usually means breaking in to your house).
What is an interception device?
http://www.keyghost.co.nz
The police use a variant of that device, obviously not as blatant as that one but is the same device inside.
Intelligence operations can span years, particularly when no crimes have been committed. The less crimes committed the longer the operation.
Where there were no crimes committed the operation will be signed off, (as with the recent Operation 8 which spanned 4 years of monitoring of who the SIG described as Left Wing Political Extremists) with arrest warrants claiming conspiracy to.... whatever.
One possible 'system' way of discouraging the flagrant use of informants is for legal beagles to petition the government to pass legislation forcing intelligence groups to have to obtain a warrant from a high court before commissioning an informant to begin collecting information.
I know a lot of activists would frown at such an idea, but the affect it would have on the likes of unaccountable units such as SIG would be devastating from the perspective of, any info gathered from informants that were not commissioned from an official high court warrant would make their information inadmisable. This would also have a paper trail and make it just a little bit harder to manufacture the grounds for operations and for warrants.
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"It was inevitable that post 12/9/2001 intelligence groups would run out of legitimate terror threats and turn on political dissidents."
They have been spying on us for a lot longer than just since 2001. This has been going on for a long time. One cop (not an informer but an actual cop) has publically admitted to sleeping with people to get into activist groups. There are many others out there.
A lawyer has said that for those of us affected after the Bill of Rights came into law, a possible case could be taken against them through that legislation. Prior to 1990, tough.
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when is the last time previous to 2001 you ever heard of raids the scale of operation 8 in this country? you would be going back a long way to find a coordinated attack as big as that one. operation 8 didnt happen as part of ongoing monitoring of activists by police, or else it would have happened 20 times since the 70s, it began a week after the SIG started mate, 2004, they were handed the profiles of what they called left wing political extremists from their predecessor, the threat assessment unit which is what you are referring to, the group that has been spying on us, from those stack of profiles they put together operation 8 with the intent of arrest activists as terrorists.
people like gilchrist who were probably leaking info to the threat assessment unit would have been moved over to the SIG and would have been participants in gathering information on chch activists which lead to the raids down that way.
the sig is a different kettle of fish to those snoops we have become accustomed to, these guys make up tall stories not to impress their bosses, but to put your arse behind bars. thats what separates them from previous spy groups.
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Sure, but the SIG is a specific group set up by the police to target activists, this is a change in tactics from the previous monitoring techniques. The SIG have set up operations which are intended to be signed off at their completion with raids and arrests.
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So when is the damage control going to happen over Gilchrist? Why are so many ppl on the Left being so "defensive" over this issue? Can't anybody admit they were sucked in by him, and announce a reversal of all decisions made at his instigation?
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This isnt about Gilchrist, and anyone that gets sucked into thinking that it is, is being played, this is about a security agency that has singled out activists from one side of the political spectrum and is intent on putting as many of them in jail as possible.
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The Green Party is furious that police-paid spy Rob Gilchrist infiltrated its offices and was used to report on the party's activities.
Green MP Keith Locke said there were rules about how police could act in Parliament's precincts and he would be writing to Prime Minister John Key, Police Minister Judith Collins and Police Commissioner Howard Broad with his concerns.
Mr Locke said that former MP Nandor Tanczos' secretary Rayna Fahey called the party after the story about Mr Gilchrist's activities broke.
Rochelle Rees, the ex-partner of Mr Gilchrist, alleged at the weekend that he had been spying on peaceful protests groups for years.
Ms Rees, an animal rights and Labour Party activist, discovered Mr Gilchrist had been paid by counter-terrorism police to spy on the protest groups when she helped him fix his computer.
She discovered emails between him and police.
Ms Fahey told the Green Party that Mr Gilchrist had befriended her and had been "keen" to visit the office and asked a lot of questions.
This happened in 2005, some time around the election.
"There are clear police protocols in Parliament between the Speaker and the police," Mr Locke said.
"It is very disturbing that police would be conducting surveillance on a political party, including its MPs."
Mr Locke said Mr Gilchrist had also been on a Green Party database getting access to information about policy and activities.
While it was not private it was questionable that police should use it surreptitiously.
Mr Gilchrist had forwarded Green Party information to police about planned protests at Parliament, for example.
Mr Key on Monday ruled out an inquiry into police spying, saying he had been given assurances covert investigations were justified following a meeting between Mr Broad and Ms Collins.
Mr Gilchrist, heavily involved in various campaigns and protests over the last decade, was allegedly paid to pass information on the groups plans and members to the police Special Investigation Group (SIG).
The SIG teams were set up in 2004 to focus on terrorism and threats to national security.
They are reported to have monitored Greenpeace, animal rights and climate change campaigners.
- NZPA
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Again I propose the German Governments 'Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution' or Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz. It began as a group focussed on terrorism and neo nazis, but since the twin towers attacks in New York, USA, has moved its focus to left wing activist groups AND left wing political parties.
These clowns in the SIG are modelling themselves after verfassungsschutz.
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I was a target and still is simply because I have an ability to analyse phenomena to reality. When I was found it, I got coerced out of University, and into a psychiatric unit by social experimentations. As a subject from within it, I study how these secret operation works and that's when I discovered the evil of the system. Not only the Police are involved but so do a lot of professionals and so-called community respected people.
I improved my mind by avoiding clinical drug therapy and going along with the neighbours who were in it. I presented my case to the psychiatrist to prove and that was it.
The media is in it a big way, and once you become a target, your identity may is associated with something like a rapist or some other notorious charater.
I gave the secret police what they were looking for and they gave it to the media. Before you know it, you are on TV! And hey presto, the proof of a secret system is shown to everyone...
I am one of the best analyst of social phenomenon, and the media tries very hard to ignore my claims. I am not boasting, there are a lot of things going on that I know, including social, political, and economic developments.
It is also common to have spies among you in whatever you do even in your bedroom! And once you become a target, your family will also become a target. So use your mind and stay safe...
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This is a good example for any informant, traitors of their souls, that they can clearly see that there is no loyalty between their handlers and them. When Gilchrist was outted where were their handlers, neither confirming nor denying they were dealing with him. Cut him off, no more pay, and if it was dirt they had on him why he was snitching, they will be revisiting it right now to lay charges since he is of no more use to them.
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THE THING YOU ACTIVISTS DONT REALISE IS THAT ACTIVISM HAS BEEN RECATEGORISED AS TERRORISM. THATS WHY THE SIG PIGS ARE DOING THIS INVESTIGATION
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Asher Goldman is a suspected spy,he is believed to have passed on information to the NF in the past.
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Yes, the information from a leftist Jew is why the NF remain so stupid and ignorant!
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No its all true.