Report from Poneke Solidarity Demo
About 30 people attended a solidarity demonstration on Manners Mall in Wellington today in support of the 'Urewera 20'. The demonstration was called earlier this week following additional raids by the police in Ruatoki and Maketu. Three more people were arrested, bringing the total of people charged to 19 (one person was arrested and subsequently released). We understand that two additional people were taken in for questioning this week but as yet, not placed under arrest. This suggests that more raids and arrests may be yet to come.
Two of the arrestees spoke at the demo, which attracted a good crowd of at Manners Mall. Following a brilliant duet of 'Safer communities together' by Don Franks accompanied by a local clarinet player, the demo did a lap down to the local police station.
While the demo did get lots of support for the tino rangatiratanga message, it is clear that there is still little broader understanding of the political nature of the arrests. The on-going colonisation of Aotearoa is so pervasive and the ruling white-supremacist paradigm so all-encompassing, many people fail to see the ugly racist reality driving 'Operation 8' and indeed, much of the so-called 'policing' that goes on in this country.
The Poneke solidarity crew will be meeting again to discuss further campaigning.
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I was happy to come and perform my song in solidarity with the arrested activists, but I didn't do it in opposition to any " white supremist paradigim."
What on earth does that phrase mean, can someone explain?
The two arrestees who spoke at the rally were white.
Don Franks
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oh thats just holier than thou pompous "my shit doesnt stink" people
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"What on earth does that phrase mean, can someone explain?"
Six times as many Maori as Pakeha in jail, no Maori prime minister in 168 years, confiscation of vast tracts of land during that time, former policies of hoping the Maori race would die out (like Tasmania's aborigines) - you get the picture about who is ruling the country and they aren't brown.
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Oh I get it, If you've got a brown face you've always got an excuse? We'll have a brown person ruling New Zealand when one of them stands up and shows they're up to the job. Best person for the job, regardless of what colour they are!
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I recognise and oppose the existance of racism and widespread Maori dispossesion in this country.
Opposition to that injustice is not helped by creating simplistic fictions.
If a "white supremacist paradigm" was really "all encompassing" then there would not be Maori police or Maori soldiers- at all levels of those forces. There would not be Maori capitalism or flourishing schools of Maori Business at the leading universities. There would not be Maori cabinet Ministers, or a Maori Minister of Foreign affairs. There would not have been a non white Govenor General. The fact is, some of those ruling this country are brown.
Don Franks
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yeah they are ,its just that these white liberals need to come up this bullshit from time to time
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is there a culture within maori that looks towards those that sell-out and join the middle classes as being less maori? isn't there a trend, it might be stereotype, among black americans that consider those among them that join the corporate rat-race to refer to those individuals in a derogatory manner as being less black and more white? I'm pakeha and I feel shame that my grandfather is a corporate businessman who advises maori and how to become more corporate in their 'ventures' VIVA LA ANARCHIST REVOLUTION! ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR ALL!
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Don, the point is that the colonisation that has been going on for 200 years is based on the concept of white supremacy. Occasionally allowing a brown person to become minister, as long as they represent the interests of the colonisers, doesn't change that.
And it's all-encompassing because whenever anything in this country is done according to Maori Tikanga, then that is stressed as an anomaly, while the dominant European culture is deemed neutral.
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stop being so divisive!
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For me "white supremacist paradigm" is a good description of race relations in this country. Unfortunately, because those in power are simplistic and are driven by the need for votes, they do see things in black and white and act accordingly.
"White liberal" is a typical smear label used against those non-Maori who believe in egalitarianism. Of course few kiwis would want to be called "white fascists" apart from the National Front.
There may be a lot of well-meaning people in between, with views that are neither liberal nor racist, but as the saying goes, evil triumphs when good people do nothing but sit on the fence.
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people who say they want change but are in reality very conformist to most of modern life. jello biafra has a country song on the subject he covered and re-wrote originally by phil ochs:
Love me I'm a Liberal
Jello Biafra & The Toadliquors
I cried when they shot John Lennon
Tears ran down my spine
And I cried when I saw "JFK"
As though I'd lost a father of mine
But Malcolm X and Ice-T had it coming
They got what they asked for this time
CHORUS
So love me, love me, love me
I'm a liberal
I go to pro-choice rallies
Recycle my cans and jars
I'll honk if you love the Dead*
Hope those funny grunge bands become stars
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far
CHORUS
I cheered when Clinton was chosen
My faith in the system reborn
I'll do anything to save our schools
If my taxes ain't too much more
And I love blacks and gays and Latinos
As long as they don't move next door
CHORUS
Rush Limbaugh and the L.A.P.D.
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand where they're at
Arsenio should set them straight
But if Neigborhood Watch doesn't know you
I hope the cops take your name
CHORUS
Yeh, I read the New Republic(an)
Rolling Stone and Mother Jones too
If I vote it's a Democrat
With a sensible economy view
But when it comes to terrorist Arabs
There's no one more red, white and blue
CHORUS
Once I was young and had an attitude
Stickers covered the car I drove in
Even went on some direct actions
When there weren't rent-a-cops to be seen
Ah, but now I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
CHORUS
* probably refers to The Grateful Dead
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Some of you White supremacy story guys are living in a dream world. This is not Nazi Germany in case you hadn't realised.
Poneke is a transliteration of Port Nicholson, so where's your anti colonisation there.
Your wacky cringemaking theatrics put people off anti racist politics altogether.
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"Your wacky cringemaking theatrics put people off anti racist politics altogether."
I think it's more white privilege that puts people off anti-racist politics.
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Oh look Mummy, I'm a protester
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FOMP
(F*** off Mr Plod)
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Racism is alive and well in Aotearoa... can you feel it?!
If you think these raids aren't a racial attack on those who stand up to the self-imposed colonial british government, and you think brown cops arresting brown 'criminals' put into jails run by brown prison guards isn't racial control, and you think brown politicians living ruling-white-class capitalist lives ain't assimilation then what do you believe?
Oh yeah, you don't have to believe anything when your priviledge protects you from thinking for yourself.
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White male arrested by male Maori and female Caucasian police officers is now very confused about whats going on.
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As indicated previously, I don't agree with the proposition that in New Zealand " the ruling white -supremist paradigm" is "all encompassing".
I've found it frustrating that some people of that opinion don't want to discuss their stance on this list for various reasons. If we get up on our hind legs in public and advance viewpoints on issues of huge social importance we ought to own them in any arena. Below are my own viewpoints.
Don Franks
Human activity and human society are not static. They constantly change and develop and that applies to racial discrimination as much as anything else.
"White supremacist" ideology is of no use to the New Zealand ruling class today and they don't promote it. If state institutions did systematically promote white racism, there would be hell to pay from the mass of the population. There would also be strident repercussions from New Zealand's trading countries. (Recently a poor taste "joke" about Chinese in a Salient column caused an international incident.)
Of course racism can be subtle, but it is not racism for someone in a position of authority to be a white person. If white supremacy was really the order of the day, there would be no Maori top military and police commanders, no top ranking Maori cabinet ministers and no state encouragement of Maori capitalism and Maori business studies - which are taken up by pakeha as well as Maori.
Some say, well that's just tokenism. But these are positions of real social power and not seen or treated as anything out of the ordinary. If we really lived in a state where white supremacy was all pervasive there would have been a hue and cry at the appointment of a Maori Minister of foreign affairs, or the appointment of a non white Governer General. And if we really lived in a state of all pervasive white supremacy there would not be the widespread and socially accepted intermarriage between all races.
Political speeches from all sides of the debating chamber remind us that the cultural catchcries of the ruling class in New Zealand today are not "white is right", but rather "diversity" and "inclusiveness". "Christian values" are not a foundation of any modern state institutions. Today "Christian values" are a minority and shrinking ideology, ironically particularly enduring in some Maori and Pacific Island circles.
If there is a "foundation" of state institutions it's clearly the power of capital. For example immigration entry is essentially based on ability to pay and usefulness to the New Zealand economy. A lot of poor people who'd like to come here are not white, but ultimately they're unjustly debarred because of economic considerations, not their colour.
The education system has failed many Maori. I don't believe this is the fault of Maori, nor do I believe its the result a deliberate white racist policy. I suspect generational poverty and deprivation is a large part of the problem.
I don't claim overall knowledge of the education system, but I do know that Maori are no longer beaten for speaking Te Reo, and that there is a degree of encouragement of Maori culture and state support for Te Reo. That is NOT to say that education is therefore all A OK and in no way racist. My point is that there is a process of change.
A lot of this change is relatively recent. Several guys I worked with at Fords told me of being smacked at school for speaking Te Reo. Those beatings would have been as late as the '50's, maybe even '60s.
I don't belong to the school of thought that society is gradually getting more civillised . If anything, I believe society is becoming overall more inequitable, and unjust. The present uncivillised state of affairs includes irrational ugly inhuman behaviour like racism and nationalism. One practical of opposing racism and nationalism is to insist on open borders. Try getting the Maori party to support that one.
White supremacist practice developed to the greatest extent in South Africa.
When apartheid was toppled that was a great advance, but South African rulers adapted and continue today to exploit and oppress the majority black population to in many respects a greater degree than before. An important part of South African capitalists adaptation is the encouragement of a growing black bourgeoise.
In New Zealand the ruling class has adapted to changing circumstances and will continue to adapt. Capitalism is pragmatic and in many ways quite flexible. In my view capitalism has no inate fixed ideological attachment to sexism or racism or homophobia or religion or anything else and is only driven by its need to maximise profit. The helpmates of that need vary in different epochs. Capitalist accumulation once required blatant officially sanctioned systematic racism to help carry out its core business.
Today such policies would pointlessly disrupt the pursuit of capitalist profiteering.
That is not to say that degrees of racism don't persist today, they do.
So does the dispossession of the majority of Maori, Pakeha, Pacific Island and other ethnic inhabitants of this land continue. So does the particularly brutal dispossesion of the very poorest New Zealand citizens, who are mostly brown.
I make no claim to have all the answers to these questions, but am convinced that working people of all colours have their most basic interests in unity against capitalism. Even if there was actually a regime of white supremacy in New Zealand that would be the case, but I don't believe there is. I think to insist on the existence of an all pervasive state of white supremacy in New Zealand is at odds with the facts and clouds our understanding of the way forward.